US Stock market / Gold cycles 1850 - 2013

US Stock market / Gold cycles 1850 - 2013

I. Kondratieff wave problem:

While researching Kondratieff wave back in December 2007, I noted that after year ~1960-1970 something happened, the line go up and up and up.

Chart "fly" after year 1970
Is this the new paradigm? Probably not.

Russian economist Nikolay Kondratieff researched/found this (Kondratieff wave) cycle in the "western" economy world back in year 1925. The figure shows the "updated" wave until year 2000.

The Kondratieff wave chart actually is chart of US stock market in USD terms. Second cyclical line shows ideal "Kondratieff waves" with "Kondratieff seasons". Until 1970's the USD was backed by gold. If we see long term Gold chart in USD, we can see that the price was mostly flat until 1970's, when Nixon closed the gold window:

Gold price in USD almost unchanged until 1972-1973

After that because of US inflation, the dollar get devaluated at very fast levels. With all this inflation - goods, commodities, the stock prices raised. One way to compensate this inflation stock price raise is to denominate the stock prices in gold, e.g. to construct the Stock / Gold ratio.

II. Stock prices methodology:

For US stock prices we can use Dow Jones Industrial Average index. It is compiled from year 1896. Before 1896 that we can use Axe-Houghton Industrial Stock Price Average index. This index is compiled from 1854. Unfortunately, I had no data feed for it. The data is "scraped" manually from following chart:

Axe-Houghton Industrial Stock Price Average 1854 - 1899

Our associates scraped average price for each year between1854 and 1899.

Because now we have 2 different indexes (DJIA and AHISPA), we used the overlapping years to estimate the coefficient of relation between them (similar to flat exchange rate). Finally we had stock prices from year1854 to 2008. The chart looks like this:

Stock prices 1854 - 2008 in USD terms

III. Dow / Gold ratio:

Finally if we construct last chart we receiving US stock prices but measured by gold:

What we get are 3 peaks - years 1929, 1965 and 2000. We the peaks are between 35-40 years. What is interesting here, the lows are not that precise - ~1896, 1934, 1980. Also each peak is higher than previous one and we can project a trendline.

Peak History Data
(data for Peak # 3 is expected)

Peak # Inflection Year Ratio DJIA
Gold Price
(average in USD)
Historical events
1 TOP 1929 15.04 310 $ 20 The Roaring Twenties, Wall Street crash
BOTTOM 1934 2.82 98 $ 34 Depression of 1934, Gold Reserve Act (Gold confiscation)
2 TOP 1965 26.07 915 $ 35 Vietnam war
BOTTOM 1980 1.46 895 $ 612 US Recession of 1980, Soviet war in Afghanistan, Gold hits $850, Interest rates hit high
3 TOP 2000 38.29 10,688 $ 279 The Dot Com Stockmarket Bubble
BOTTOM 2010 less 5    $ 2,000+ The Housing Bubble

 IV. Possible predictions:

As FED inflating the USD, Gold will go higher. Many analysts believe the US stock market will go down. My opinion is we will have slow growth there. In all cases, I can not found even one analyst who believe the bull marker will resume.

1. The Dow/Gold ratio must go down to under 5, or even under 3.

Lately I read someone who said Dow will go down to 5000. This means Gold go to 2000 USD (ratio 2.50).

However I see Dow higher because of hyperinflation. If you note peak # 2, Dow doesn't fall at all in USD terms (2%). If we assume this peak #3 we have 2% drop, this means Dow will go down to 9800. This makes gold to be 3920 USD at its next top.

We do not need to forget that between 1965 and 1972, USD was still backed by gold. This means that at that time the dollar was stable and inflation was not that high. I think that's why we see those 2% drop. I believe this time we will see small increase of US stock prices. If we guess 2% increase in Dow, this put gold to 4360 USD at the top.

2. Timeframe is much difficult.

The downtrend in peak # 1 is just 5 years, in peak #2 is 15 years. We are 8 years away from year 2000. For these 8 years ratio drops from 38 to 15. This is 61% drop for 8 years. This gives us 5 more years, e.g. year 2013.

Got Gold?

© DEC.2007 - APR.2008,
Nikolay Mihaylov, nmmm@nmmm.nu

5 коментара:

NMMM.NU каза...

Chris Puplave publishes today Déjà vu? LET'S HOPE NOT!

At the end of the article, he describe same chart as me, but he bring interesting calculation there -

- if in 1932 Dow is traded 10,000 then gold would be $4,807

- if in 1980 Dow is traded 10,000 then gold would be $7,407

He brings "Long Term Average" of 11.52 as well, which put gold @ $867

Gold IRA каза...

I have gone with this wave graph as according to Nikolay Kondratieff and got quite nice information about US stock market . This wave graph had shown very healthy US economy on that time.
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Nexpider каза...

A lot of useful information about US Stock market, thanks. I feel that it might even be too much for me to “digest” in just one week.

NMMM.NU каза...

An article, similar to mine, just 3 years later:

Gold & Silver-When To Sell?
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Mike Maloney


Semi precious stones suppliers каза...

nice posting. I like it. Thanks